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ZZ Factory Review

The legacy Submariner factory credited as the origin of Clean Factory

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5.2 /10
  • Movement 5
  • Finishing 6
  • Catalog 3
  • QC 6
  • Community 5
  • Value 6

Also known as

ZZF, ZZ Factory, ZZ

Price tier

budget · $200–$350

Movements used

  • Submariner caliber (V1 revision)
  • Submariner caliber (V2 revision)

Status update (2026-09):Community attention has shifted almost entirely to ZZF's role as the historical predecessor of Clean Factory rather than to any current independent output. Older ZZF Submariner builds, some running for five years or more, remain in circulation among existing owners even though fresh production appears limited.

Verdict

ZZF's Submariner No-Date remains a respected long-term build for owners who already have one, but it isn't a factory most buyers should shop from in 2026. Anyone wanting a current, actively supported Submariner is better served by ZZF's own successor lineage, Clean Factory, or a top-tier alternative like VSF or RICH.

What we like

  • Older ZZF Submariner No-Date units have been reported by long-term owners as still running reliably after five or more years of wear.
  • Widely credited as the direct historical predecessor to Clean Factory, giving its Submariner architecture a well-documented lineage.
  • A narrow, Submariner-only focus meant the factory concentrated all its development on getting one reference right rather than spreading effort thin.

What to watch

  • Community threads asking whether ZZF is 'still a contender' in 2026 generally answer no, treating it as a nostalgic legacy pick rather than a current option.
  • Fresh, independently produced stock is hard to find; most available ZZF watches are older dealer inventory rather than new production.

Top models

Submariner No-Date (V2) 116610LN replica by zzwatchfactory.com

Submariner No-Date (V2)

Ref. 116610LN

clone Submariner caliber (V2 revision)

The reference most associated with ZZF, praised by long-term owners for holding up well after five or more years of wear.

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Submariner Date (V1) 116610LN replica by zzwatchfactory.com

Submariner Date (V1)

Ref. 116610LN

clone Submariner caliber (V1 revision)

An earlier ZZF Submariner build that preceded the V2 revision and helped establish the factory's early reputation before Clean Factory's founding.

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History and reputation

ZZ Factory (ZZF) holds an unusual place in Rolex replica history: it is generally credited as the factory that eventually became Clean Factory, one of the most prominent names of the following years. ZZF's own run centered almost entirely on the Submariner, refining a no-date build through at least two movement revisions before its lineage was absorbed into Clean's broader operation. Long-term owners of the older V2 Submariner have reported units still running reliably after five or more years, giving the factory a strong reputation for durability even as its independent identity faded. Current community discussion treats ZZF less as an active factory to shop from and more as a piece of Rolex replica history, with periodic 'still a contender?' threads generally concluding that it isn't. No formal closure has been confirmed, but visible independent output has slowed sharply since Clean Factory took over the spotlight.

Best models

ZZF's reputation rests almost entirely on its Submariner No-Date (116610LN), particularly the V2 revision that improved on the factory's earlier build and became the reference long-term owners point to when discussing durability. The original V1 Submariner Date preceded it and is largely remembered as the build that established ZZF's early name before Clean Factory emerged from the same lineage. ZZF never meaningfully expanded beyond the Submariner into other Rolex references or additional brands, which is part of why its catalog feels dated next to current multi-brand factories. Buyers considering a ZZF Submariner today should treat it as a piece with historical value and a proven durability track record rather than as a factory keeping pace with 2026's current Rolex releases.

Where to buy / alternatives

Fresh ZZF stock is difficult to find through current dealer channels, since the factory's independent production has slowed considerably since its lineage carried over into Clean Factory. Buyers who specifically want a ZZF-branded Submariner will mostly be shopping older dealer inventory rather than new runs, and should set expectations accordingly. For anyone in the market for a current, actively supported Submariner No-Date, today's stronger alternative is Clean Factory itself, or a top-tier competitor like VSF or RICH, all of which offer newer builds with far more active community feedback. ZZF is best approached as a nostalgic or collector pickup rather than a primary source in 2026.

Score breakdown

Criterion Weight Score
Movement 25% 5
Finishing 20% 6
Catalog 15% 3
QC consistency 15% 6
Community 15% 5
Value 10% 6

Frequently asked questions

Is ZZF still a good option for a Submariner replica in 2026?

Not as a primary choice. Community threads asking whether ZZF is 'still a contender' generally conclude it isn't, and independent production has slowed since its lineage carried over into Clean Factory. It remains a respected legacy pick for collectors, but current buyers are better served by Clean, VSF, or RICH.

What is the relationship between ZZF and Clean Factory?

ZZF is widely credited within the community as the historical predecessor to Clean Factory. Clean effectively grew out of ZZF's lineage and went on to build a much broader catalog and reputation, while ZZF's own independent output narrowed to its original Submariner focus.

Where can I buy a ZZF Submariner today?

Fresh ZZF stock is limited, since the factory's active production has slowed considerably. Most available units come from older dealer inventory rather than new runs, so buyers specifically seeking a ZZF-branded Submariner should expect to shop secondary or leftover stock rather than a current production line.